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swissdude
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05/02/11 at 16:41:06
 
Hi guys,

I build a 3-chamber bat house in Switzerland some 3 years ago
I made it as "academical" as I could in terms of construction, materials and placement

Though, after 3 years, no bat settled in

Many bats fly above this garden usually, it's a quiet place, though relatively urban, not much disturbing light, no cats or foxes can access the house, no spiders or wasps inside, it's oriented south and receives direct sun from early morning till approx 2 p.m., there were much less leaves at first, but I always kept the landing area clear, no one ever opens the windows below and there's litterally no light coming from there, the latitude of Switzerland is 45° (Europe is warmer than North America for the same latitude)

I'm out of solutions to have this house populated

Any hint?

Thanks in advance!
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Reply #1 - 05/20/11 at 22:39:48
 
I have the same problem.  I put my bat house next to a 3 acre pond.  Bats (maybe 6) come out at dusk but they are not interested in the house.  It's been up for 5 years now and nobody has moved in.  

I built the house from well designed plans.  It has two chambers in case they need to move from hot to cold side of the house.  It's sitting about 20' off the ground between two poles that I installed.  Everything seems to be done right.

What I've heard is that bats are very picky about location, location, location.  I'm thinking about moving it to the other side of the pond to see if it helps.

Love those little guys.
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Reply #2 - 04/20/12 at 21:23:10
 
I'm having the same issue also. I got a bat house from the local wildlife, mounted it on a 20 ft pole, painted it a light color and its been 6 yrs with no occupancy. My home which is 50 ft away meanwhile has bats in the pillars on the front porch all summer long. This is in Prescott Az and I'm thinking that its just too warm in the bat houses. Do you think trying to get a shade over the top will help?
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Reply #3 - 10/06/12 at 02:13:29
 
Okay well it would be great to know more about the bathouses, in terms of size and color.

Though batcon.org recommends that if you're mounting on a pole it has to have a minimum size of the 4-chamber nursery.  
If you're concerned about the temperature get a remote thermometer and monitor the temperature in it,  it should be around body temperature most of the time, including at night.

If it is too cold, then paint it darker color, and get better lighting.
If it's too hot, then paint it a lighter color, and put in ventilation holes.

Also swissdude you mentioned leaves is it mounted on a tree? they prefer a  location at least 20ft from a tree. One alternative I've read is to have multiple houses on a tree, and then the bats seem more likely to move in, as they can switch between different houses.
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Reply #4 - 12/27/12 at 07:32:29
 
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Reply #5 - 12/29/12 at 19:27:46
 
Ok, not sure where to stick this, so, I'll put it with the kitchen sink. Just read an article on AOL about WNS, and I've heard about it before. I've lived in the same neighborhood for 13 years, and have been quite an expert at helping bats find their way out of our home. We used to average 3-8 visits a year, but last year we had only one. There is no shuffling around in our attic, or squeaks or clicks. So, I am afraid that WNS is here in central NY now.
Any idea if that is true? Are there any bat experts in the Elmira/Corning area of NY? We have <or, tragically had> a very large brown bat population here, but I don't know if they've moved on, or perished. I'd love to cooperate with you and help the bats here. Feel free to e-mail me directly.
John
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Reply #6 - 01/01/13 at 18:58:02
 
John,

You might want to repost your issue in the WNS area or on a new post I only saw it because I was reading this bat house discussion.  Post as a new topic at least that way more folks will see it and be able to respond.

My thoughts for you would be related to what type of colony size you've had in the attic for years prior that you've counted, has anything changed to the structure?  Dozens of reasons why bats relocate, I've had big brown colonies that use 3-4 different homes within a mile of each other switching weekly often for reasons that are unexplained by human presence or disturbance of known commodity.

To the folks on the original thread, logan makes solids points that are important and true.  Usually people get frustrated because they fail to realize that if you have a home already, you don't need a new one.  This doesn't mean bats might not prefer your bat house to the natural crevice, tree, rocks or porch that they are using now, but if they are "happy" lets say, with the setup they have, they won't just leave it for the new digs.

Kathy - I'm in ABQ, NM area and your story reads like that of most of my residential bat issues here.  Southwest architecture is something bats really get good use out of, decorative latillas and vegas provide room for night roosting and often for day roosts as well.

When are you seeing the bats using your porch?  While we have colonies of pallid bats and a variety of myotis species using porches as day roosts and even maternity colonies, many people simply see night roosting and don't realize the bats are there for resting and hunting.  Pallids are right at home hunting in shrubbery and leaf litter around the lit up areas and piles of grasshopper and cricket legs and moth wings will tell you why they are there, along with urine staining and guano of course.  If your home is well sealed and the decorative logs or other wood pieces don't have holes of 1/2" and larger you probably have night roosting, but if you do have holes and can see staining and other than you may indeed have an active colony.

Feel free to email me with other thoughts or questions, always happy to help, we are working on some boxes made specifically for the southwest in an unrelated venture.  We don't see wood boxes as best for everyone and surely in the southwest where rock crevices and stucco abound, wood is more of a rare roost type.

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Justin
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Reply #7 - 01/12/13 at 01:55:37
 
Hi Might you be able to offer advise on how I can relocate a colony that is living underneath the house of my neighbor and of which lost much of their colony last year because of my neighbor's fear and ignorance. He killed them with a shovel. I of course was saddened and angry to hear of this and assumed that all were killed. But today when I was asked to come over and help set up a new water heater I was delighted to see a few left. But much to my dismay and although I have tried to educate him on the importance of bats, he only wants to kill them.
Time is of essence.
Russell 901-590-8075
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Reply #8 - 01/12/13 at 01:57:53
 
Hi Might you be able to offer advise on how I can relocate a colony that is living underneath the house of my neighbor and of which lost much of their colony last year because of my neighbor's fear and ignorance. He killed them with a shovel. I of course was saddened and angry to hear of this and assumed that all were killed. But today when I was asked to come over and help set up a new water heater I was delighted to see a few left. But much to my dismay and although I have tried to educate him on the importance of bats, he only wants to kill them.
Time is of essence.
Russell 901-590-8075
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Reply #9 - 01/13/13 at 17:28:28
 
Russell,

What part of the country are you in?  Winter is not a good time to exclude bats for many many reasons.  If your friend can be convinced to wait for spring weather exclusion can be performed and the bats will be on their way with no harm to them or to him.  Too many people react out of fear and phobias that have no basis in reality, but thats what phobias are, irrational responses.

I looked up your area code shows TN.  I am positive there are some folks in the TN working group for bats that would have the ability to help educate him, and might be local to the area as well if a site visit is necessary.

http://www.tnbwg.org/

Go to that link, they have contact info and a bunch of links for resources in your area.

Let me know if that doesn't work, I have had lots of luck changing minds on the internet, but many folks out of state don't care to take advice over the phone from someone not in their neck of the woods.

Justin
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